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Obama vs. Cheney

On May 21, 2009, ex-Vice President Dick Cheney and President Barack Obama spoke to the American populace.  Each man had  different opinions on how to keep America safe. 

Cheney

Obama

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9/11

"Nine-eleven made necessary a shift of policy, aimed at a clear strategic threat - what the Congress called "an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States." From that moment forward, instead of merely preparing to round up the suspects and count up the victims after the next attack, we were determined to prevent attacks in the first place."

9/11

"For the first time since 2002, we are providing the necessary resources and strategic direction to take the fight to the extremists who attacked us on 9/11 in Afghanistan and Pakistan."

Opinion

"For the first time?" Where have you been, Mr. Obama?

For the past 7 1/2 years we have been taking the fight to the enemy.  Has Obama forgotten Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom?  Over 4,000 American service men and women have sacrificed their all for this cause.  Obama is certainly out of touch with what has transpired over the past 7 1/2 years.

Action after 9/11

"To make certain our nation country never again faced such a day of horror, we developed a comprehensive strategy, beginning with far greater homeland security to make the United States a harder target. But since wars cannot be won on the defensive, we moved decisively against the terrorists in their hideouts and sanctuaries, and committed to using every asset to take down their networks. We decided, as well, to confront the regimes that sponsored terrorists, and to go after those who provide sanctuary, funding, and weapons to enemies of the United States. We turned special attention to regimes that had the capacity to build weapons of mass destruction, and might transfer such weapons to terrorists."

 

Action after 9/11

"Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. And I believe that those decisions were motivated by a sincere desire to protect the American people. But I also believe that - too often - our government made decisions based upon fear rather than foresight, and all too often trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, we too often set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And in this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans; politicians, journalists and citizens - fell silent."

 

Opinion

I think that being attacked and killing over 3,000 Americans would inflict fear in anyone.  Fear was a great motivator to set in motion the type of change that was needed to keep us safe.  After all, it worked for the past  eight years, Mr. Obama!

As for values and principles, we managed to stand firm against those who want us obliterated from the planet. The values and principles of freedom, holding people accountable for their actions, and defeating the enemy was successful. 

We also experienced one of the largest coalitions against Terrorism that this world has ever seen when we took out the Taliban.

And, who was silent? The media and the Democrats were in constant motion of calling our troops "Nazis", "baby killers", etc.  Oh how quick you forget, Mr. Obama!

Interrogations

"In top secret meetings about enhanced interrogations, I made my own beliefs clear. I was and remain a strong proponent of our enhanced interrogation program. The interrogations were used on hardened terrorists after other efforts failed. They were legal, essential, justified, successful, and the right thing to do. The intelligence officers who questioned the terrorists can be proud of their work and proud of the results, because they prevented the violent death of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of innocent people."

Interrogations

"...As Commander-in-Chief, I see the intelligence, I bear responsibility for keeping this country safe, and I reject the assertion that these are the most effective means of interrogation. What's more, they undermine the rule of law. They alienate us in the world."

Opinion

Evidently the interrogations did work as America was not attacked during the remaining years of the Bush administration. The administration was also able to thwart terrorist plots against our nation using these methods. 

Interesting that Mr. Obama uses the term rule of law as if it applies to terrorist.  These people live under different rules of law and not under our constitution.  As an "enemy combatant", they do not deserve the same treatment that a citizens of the United States deserves. 

These are bad people.  They intend to kill us.  Has Mr. Obama forgot this?

Waterboarding

"You've heard endlessly about water boarding. It happened to three terrorists. One of them was Khalid Sheikh Muhammed - the mastermind of 9/11, who has also boasted about beheading Daniel Pearl. We had a lot of blind spots after the attacks on our country. We didn't know about al-Qaeda's plans, but Khalid Sheikh Muhammed and a few others did know. And with many thousands of innocent lives potentially in the balance, we didn't think it made sense to let the terrorists answer questions in their own good time, if they answered them at all."

Waterboarding

"I know some have argued that brutal methods like water-boarding were necessary to keep us safe. I could not disagree more."

Opinion

In any event, water boarding is still more human than cutting the heads off of your enemy like Al Qaeda did its captives.  Remember Daniel Pearl?  The bottom line is that if it saves lives, then we need this type of interrogation!  Being nice to our enemies will never guarantee that they will be humane with American captives. Besides, every time water boarding was conducted, it was done under strict supervision by a doctor to ensure that it wasn't done in a way that would kill the captive.  They all survived.  And, so did the thousands of people saved by the information we obtained from this method.

Was it legal?

"Even before the interrogation program began, and throughout its operation, it was closely reviewed to ensure that every method used was in full compliance with the Constitution, statutes, and treaty obligations. On numerous occasions, leading members of Congress, including the current speaker of the House, were briefed on the program and on the methods.

...In seeking to guard this nation against the threat of catastrophic violence, our Administration gave intelligence officers the tools and lawful authority they needed to gain vital information. We didn't invent that authority. It is drawn from Article Two of the Constitution. And it was given specificity by the Congress after 9/11, in a Joint Resolution authorizing "all necessary and appropriate force" to protect the American people."

 

Was it legal?

"...the decisions that were made over the last eight years established an ad hoc legal approach for fighting terrorism that was neither effective nor sustainable - a framework that failed to rely on our legal traditions and time-tested institutions; that failed to use our values as a compass."

Opinion

Mr. Obama has failed to recognized that Congress IS our legal system.  Because he has failed to remember the various meetings with Congress, and because he forgot that congress approved such interrogations, Mr. Obama is not speaking the truth. 

Documentation is available from these meetings.  Congress, even Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was in a position to oppose the interrogations, but they didn't.  If Congress approved it, then it must be legal!   

Release of Memos

"To the very end of our administration, we kept al-Qaeda terrorists busy with other problems. We focused on getting their secrets, instead of sharing ours with them. And on our watch, they never hit this country again."

 

Release of Memos

"Several weeks ago, as part of an ongoing court case, I released memos issued by the previous Administration's Office of Legal Counsel. I did not do this because I disagreed with the enhanced interrogation techniques that those memos authorized, or because I reject their legal rationale - although I do on both counts. I released the memos because the existence of that approach to interrogation was already widely known, the Bush Administration had acknowledged its existence, and I had already banned those methods. "

Opinion

The Bush Administration only shared general knowledge as they were very careful in not focusing on the details.  Only the liberal media and Mr. Obama have taken it further down the road for political reasons and jeopardized our national security.  Either Mr. Obama doesn't really care about the security of our nation if it doesn't coincide with his ideas, or he is pretty stupid and naive when it comes to national security.  These matters should have never been brought up to the public as our enemies are within the public.  Mr. Obama, you are a danger to this country and such acts have, in the past, been considered treason!

One Last Point

"For all that we've lost in this conflict, the United States has never lost its moral bearings. And when the moral reckoning turns to the men known as high-value terrorists, I can assure you they were neither innocent nor victims. As for those who asked them questions and got answers: they did the right thing, they made our country safer, and a lot of Americans are alive today because of them."

 

One Last Point

"I ran for President because I believe that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together. We will not be safe if we see national security as a wedge that divides America - it can and must be a cause that unites us as one people, as one nation. We have done so before in times that were more perilous than ours. We will do so once again."

 

Opinion

Mr. Obama is still on the campaign trail.  He continues to "sell" himself more than trying to keep America safe.  When it comes to National Security, you cannot be in the middle of the road to appease everyone.  If you have one foot in hot water and the other in cold water you cannot say that you are lukewarm.  In order for National Security to work, a certain secretive approach must be followed. Mr. Obama is also hypocritical in his words of "we solve them together".  How can we do that when he is continually putting down the previous party while he himself and his party is just as responsible as they are.  The safety that this country once enjoyed over the past eight years is beginning to become unraveled. Mr. Obama and his cronies are more concerned about their own welfare than the state of the union.

Click the links below to view the complete speeches. 

Dick Cheney

Barack Obama

 

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